#066 Bethany McLean On The Rise Of Legal Fraud
The Julia La Roche Show - A podcast by Julia La Roche

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Bethany McLean (@bethanymac12), author and journalist, joins Julia La Roche on episode 66 to revisit some notorious corporate failures and discuss fraud. Bethany is the author of The Smartest Guys in the Room: The Amazing Rise and Scandalous Fall of Enron and All the Devils Are Here: The Hidden History of the Financial Crisis. She has also written two mini books, Shaky Ground: The Strange Saga of the US Mortgage Giants and Saudi America: The Truth About Fracking and How It's Changing the World. She also serves on the board of the Stigler Center at the University of Chicago. She's a 1992 graduate of Williams College. 0:00 Background and path to journalism 1:47 Goldman Sachs to fact-checking at Fortune 4:15 Writing about investing 5:45 Another side to stories 6:37 Enron 9:20 Reporting the Enron story 14:45 Lessons from Enron 15:20 Do you own homework 18:00 Emotion in business 20:00 Short-selling 23:11 Do your own homework 24:19 Valeant stock battle 26:10 Legal fraud 30:38 A thin line between a fraudster and a visionary 33:15 World of business is crazier than ever before 37:45 Golden age of fraud? 41:03 Venture capital and private equity’s reliance on low-interest rates 43:43 A different environment 44:44 Curiosity covering corporate failures 47:00 Can greed be eliminated? 48:48 Banking crisis 49:55 State of journalism