Good Beans
Jake & JZ - A podcast by Jake Knapp and John Zeratsky - Thursdays

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This week on episode 4, we talked about:Jake's train stationA disappointing dialog at the end of Diablo 3What’s so incredibly great about hoodiesTeddy Ruxpin, the original edtech product for kidsCuriosity Labs, a Character portfolio company building educational AI companions for kidsThe founding story of YouTube KidsGetting new product ideas from real-world customer behaviorTwo different ways to pitch the same companyShould founders follow “best practices” when pitching investors or try to stand out?Fathom’s Series AHow we found Fathom (and then decided to invest)Authenticity in salesWhy we go out of our way to pitch ourselves to foundersOur Design Sprint with FathomAlmond butter in oatmealA great book: Against the GodsAnd much more📩 Get an email about every episode at JakeAndJZ.com💸 Learn more about our seed fund Character Capital🥸 Find Jake on LinkedIn and X🤠 Find JZ on LinkedIn and XChapters00:00 A diabolical dialog box03:54 The importance of throughline05:45 Where is Jake's sweatshirt?!07:39 How sweatshirts work09:13 Teddy Ruxpin11:24 Building the pitch for Curiosity Labs17:04 How a side project became YouTube Kids22:49 A better way to pitch VCs33:56 How Fathom got to Series A40:30 How VCs do outbound sales45:48 How authenticity shows up in products53:21 Good beans57:14 An extended self-congratulatory ad for Character and Design Sprints